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Post by rbjcampi » Sat Nov 29, 2003 9:09 pm

I finally got the rail I've been building for the last 3 years finished and took it out for a test run. Went for a few runs and then the oil line came off, oil pressure gone, and engine stopped. I'm assuming worst case but want to know if anyone has any ideas for getting this motor back or is it gone. If it is, since it was a 1835, should (can) I rebuild it to a 1915 or do I go out and buy a new longblock
Any help would be appreciated (especially if you know how to save this engine)

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Post by r erfert » Sat Nov 29, 2003 9:52 pm

If it does not turn over at all(By hand)(Socket on the pulley nut/clockwise)
You can start tearing it down(It is usually cheaper to rebuild than to by a long block)How fast were you going when it seized up??If you go from a 1835...to...a 1914 you will have to change pistons and recut the block and heads to 94mm...ON top of what you need to do to rebuild the 1835...(???Rings,rod bearings/maybe rods,cam bearings,main bearings/maybe a crank??What town are you located in??
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Post by Tom Simrak » Sat Nov 29, 2003 11:39 pm

If it is, since it was a 1835, should (can) I rebuild it to a 1915 or do I go out and buy a new longblock
If your going to cut it for a 1915, may as well sepnd a few extra bucks and go 2180, or 2275. its really not that much more money.

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Post by rbjcampi » Sun Nov 30, 2003 11:51 am

Engine won't turn over by hand so I'll start tearing down today. It was going 50-60 when stopped. I live in Fallon (near Reno). If you know of where I can get the parts I need and case cut cheap that would help. Because of where I live I'm used to sending things out so that's not a big deal. Since it sounds like I'll be rebuilding the engine anyway, how big do you think I can go with a stock 091 tranny? I definetly won't have the money to upgrade the tranny for awhile after doing this rebuild. I was planning on building up this engine eventually so maybe this was just a sign that I need to do it sooner than later (that's about the only good thing I can pull out of this).

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Post by r erfert » Sun Nov 30, 2003 8:36 pm

It was going 50-60 when it stopped. OUCH!! :shock:Well after the tear down...Weigh your options...My 2 cents worth :arrow: The 091 stock is good as long as you don't dump the clutch(much) at higher RPM's I would think you could go BIG.(Big as the wallet will allow)I have found that, after about a 1915 the carburation needs to be stepped up also...(3 years in the making...Remember the bigger the motor the bigger the break)I am looking into building a bigger motor also... I have a set of big valve heads(42x37.5)cut for 94mm. I would like to go with a new aluminum case. I have heard some good thinks about the cases...(Has anyone heard any bad news about the new aluminum cases :?: :?: )From what I understand they come cut for 94mm...and are cast to accept any stroker crank if a person wanted to go BIG in the future. My 1835 and built trans is plenty fast enough for the 2 seat, rear engine, stock beam front end car...For the soon to be (I hope :D) Longer travel car...I will probably stick with a 1914/15,counterweighted crank,single 44 Weber with a blow thru turbo.
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Post by OBSESSED » Sun Nov 30, 2003 9:02 pm

1914/15
69 crank
times
94mm
times
94mm
times
pi (3.14159)
equals=
it's a 1915cc (1915.3771)

My old engine was another that was confusing
86 X 94 X 94 X 3.14159 = 2387cc NOT 2386cc as some call it....

My wifes is still more confused:
2176cc
78.4 X 94 X 94 X 3.14159 = 2176cc

Have a nice day...
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Post by porboy » Sun Nov 30, 2003 10:14 pm

r erfert wrote:. I would like to go with a new aluminum case. I have heard some good thinks about the cases...(Has anyone heard any bad news about the new aluminum cases :?: :?: )From what I understand they come cut for 94mm...and are cast to accept any stroker crank if a person wanted to go BIG in the future.
From what I have heard your motor will run about 20 degrees hotter and that alot of the castings are rough and need to be cleaned up. I know the main guy at VW Paradise said he won't touch the things anymore. Just to much work to get them to the point of being ready to assemble.

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Post by 7733 » Mon Dec 01, 2003 10:40 am

I blew up my 1835 last year and had it rebuilt up to a 2076. Cost me $900 for everything.

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Post by r erfert » Mon Dec 01, 2003 7:21 pm

OK give me the scoop...What did you start with(what parts and what carburation :?: )NOW what is in it now for parts: :?:
Crank-counterweighted/forged or cast/brand :?:
Rods :?:
Heads-big valve :?:
carburation :?:
Who cut the case and heads :?:
Did you build it your self :?:
New parts or used :?:
I talked to a D&K today and he also said bigger is BETTER...
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Post by SANDMANIAC » Mon Dec 01, 2003 9:25 pm

Engine won't turn?...Bearing seized!..may be able to machine crank 10 or 20 under...(more than likely NOT)..cause at that speed things have a tendency to "deep" grove...much deeper than a 20 cut can remove..

How big can you go with a stock 091?..you can do a carbureted 2332 (that's 84X94), the weakest point in an 091 is the reverse...treat the tranny on a "roll"...don't "dump" the clutch and it will last for a long time...
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Post by Tom Simrak » Wed Dec 03, 2003 11:04 pm

you can do a carburated 2332 (that's 86X94),
Just a note, 84x94 is 2332, well acually it's 2335.

86x94 is a 2391.

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Post by SANDMANIAC » Thu Dec 04, 2003 1:38 am

Tom Simrak wrote:
Just a note, 84x94 is 2332, well acually it's 2335.
You're right Tom...My mistake...! I should know better..LOL.I'll correct it!
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Post by Tom Simrak » Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:05 am

You're right Tom...My mistake...! I should know better..LOL.I'll correct it!
I would have never know except I just sent a case in to get clearanced for and 84 crank. I thought that was for a 2332. Then I saw your post that said 86 crank and I paniced. I thought I blew it. So I had to double check.
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Post by OBSESSED » Thu Dec 04, 2003 12:39 pm

Tom Simrak wrote:
you can do a carburated 2332 (that's 86X94),
Just a note, 84x94 is 2332, well acually it's 2335.

86x94 is a 2391.

Just clairification.
84X94 is a 2332cc who told you it's a 2335?

[84 X 94 X 94 X pi (3.14159) = 2332cc] check your math....

86 X 94 = 2387cc

You must have one of those high tech Microsoft Calc's :lol:

I know, picky-picky-picky.... 8)

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Post by Desert_Rat » Thu Dec 04, 2003 4:29 pm

Give the Buggy Barn a call in Reno. They are on 2nd street just across from the Hilton. I had the old man there (not the kid) rebuild a long block for me about 2 years ago. He did is for about $200 more than I could buy the parts for. It was not worth messing with to me for that amount of money. He also knew what he was doing and I don't. Sent me to a little machine shop up the street to get my stroker crank turned and a matching chevy rod made for the one that broke. They did a good job also. I have been real pleased with the outcome. I'm sure he buys parts for less than I could too. That was probably half his profit.
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Post by r erfert » Thu Dec 04, 2003 6:45 pm

One handed steve...I used to do the math 69x94x94x3.14(short hand)I now do the calculations(long hand)pi at 3.14159.Thanks,And yes I made a note of it in my book...I wonder if the gas milage will suffer? :roll:

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Post by Intelliduner » Thu Dec 04, 2003 7:49 pm

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r erfert wrote:. I would like to go with a new aluminum case. I have heard some good thinks about the cases...(Has anyone heard any bad news about the new aluminum cases :?: :?: )
From what I have heard your motor will run about 20 degrees hotter and that alot of the castings are rough and need to be cleaned up. I know the main guy at VW Paradise said he won't touch the things anymore. Just to much work to get them to the point of being ready to assemble.
You can go billet aluminum, and avoid rough casting, and get a much higher quality product. I've seen about 3 or 4 different manufacturers of billet cases. I hadn't heard about the higher temps, but that would probably be true of the billet, too. The price is UP there, though!

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Post by r erfert » Thu Dec 04, 2003 8:43 pm

Thanks Dennis, I saw one somewhere from Rimco NEW cut for 94mm's $350. not sure if it was billet but looked clean.I am slowly gathering parts for a mid travel car w/1915 turbo or 2276.Will have to see what the wallet says :roll:

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Post by SANDMANIAC » Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:04 pm

Originally posted by Intelliduner:
You can go billet aluminum, and avoid rough casting, and get a much higher quality product. I've seen about 3 or 4 different manufacturers of billet cases. I hadn't heard about the higher temps, but that would probably be true of the billet, too. The price is UP there, though!
That is a good suggestion; however..the only problem is that the tin will not fit satisfactorily on the bilet cases..and that's an issue with most of us VW powered sandcar owners..

Originally posted by r erfert:
Thanks Dennis, I saw one somewhere from Rimco NEW cut for 94mm's $350. not sure if it was billet but looked clean.I am slowly gathering parts for a mid travel car w/1915 turbo or 2276.Will have to see what the wallet says
r efert that is NOT a billet case, those are aluminum cases manufactured in Brazil..however they offer greater strength than the original Mag case of the olden days..
I personally bought an aluminum case from a guy in Washington state that is heat treated 356 T-6 and has cross-through studs..nutted on both sides it's called the TF-1...this baby was a pretty penny to the tune of $1400 smackers, but the cam is .100 lower and you can stuff a 90mm crank in it w/o too much trouble..the nice thing about it is that it looks exactly like a VW case except it's well built and strong!

But those Brazilian aluminum cases offer great strength for the buck!
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Post by r erfert » Thu Dec 04, 2003 9:34 pm

SANDMANIAC..$1400 smackers... :shock: Out of my price range. I would have to cash in the stash of gold coins/But cant remember where I put them :roll: Does your blood pressure go up when the engine hickups :?:

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Post by SANDMANIAC » Fri Dec 05, 2003 12:26 am

r efert...Actually..I wanted to have the most integrity in this engine I built as possible....I have the best of everything in this case..therefore the shell had to protect what is inside the egg LOL...So I spent the bucks..I'm pushing a little over 400HP..so I needed that extra protection so-to-speak.my case has been tested up to 800HP..LOL..On the other hand, I think you'll do OK with that aluminum case from RIMCO..they're a great bunch and they know what they're doing!..Great luck to you..if you ever need any help talk to me, I've been there and done that with VW motors...OHH and by the way...my engine doesn't hick-up..LOL
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Post by Tom Simrak » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:20 am

84X94 is a 2332cc who told you it's a 2335?

[84 X 94 X 94 X pi (3.14159) = 2332cc] check your math....

86 X 94 = 2387cc

You must have one of those high tech Microsoft Calc's
Well Kinda... I have an excel spread sheet program that calculates using pi to the 50th or 100th digit or something like that. It also calculates your compession ratio for you. Gives a cross reference chart so you know what your deck height should be and so on. Pretty cool. My guess is depending on how many digits you want pi to be, you could come up with almosty any answer. But we all yound it out to the same thing.
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Post by Tom Simrak » Fri Dec 05, 2003 8:26 am

Heres some useless trivia.. pi has now(2002) been calculated out to 128,000 digits....

Hers just a few.

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Post by MattV » Fri Dec 05, 2003 5:16 pm

I like Pi... :P

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Apple is my Favorite! :P :P :P
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Post by OBSESSED » Sat Dec 06, 2003 1:02 pm

SANDMANIAC wrote:Apple is my Favorite! :P :P :P
Apple is my second favorite

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Post by Intelliduner » Sat Dec 06, 2003 3:13 pm

SANDMANIAC wrote:Originally posted by Intelliduner:
You can go billet aluminum, and avoid rough casting, and get a much higher quality product. I've seen about 3 or 4 different manufacturers of billet cases. I hadn't heard about the higher temps, but that would probably be true of the billet, too. The price is UP there, though!
That is a good suggestion; however..the only problem is that the tin will not fit satisfactorily on the bilet cases..and that's an issue with most of us VW powered sandcar owners..
Not stock tin, no, but then again, stock tin doesn't fit any stroker motor very well either. Several years ago when Pauter had first put their billet case out there, I read about someone that was developing a Porsche-style shroud for it, probably fiberglass. There have been several billet cases available for years now that I would expect that *someone* has a solution for one, even if the one for the Pauter case didn't end up going into production.
SANDMANIAC wrote:But those Brazilian aluminum cases offer great strength for the buck!
On an ACVW listserv I'm on, I saw a lot of posts about them when the Brazilian ones first came out, by folks who were actually selling them as well as those using them. Aside from the casting flash or rough casting issues (which I think are still there), there was something in the first few hundred cases that came off the production line...I forget exactly what, but it was something like a misaligned distributor shaft bore or suchforth. Apparently that's been fixed since then, but I'm still curious why VW Paradise refuses to use them. I saw a brand new case on the floor at Johnson's Bug Machine just a couple days ago. I asked Nathan about them and he said the only issues they have had are with rough casting.

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Post by SANDMANIAC » Sun Dec 07, 2003 1:44 am

Intelliduner wrote:
There have been several billet cases available for years now that I would expect that *someone* has a solution for one, even if the one for the Pauter case didn't end up going into production.
The problem is that nobody has come up with a solution or new tin to work "better" with strokers. Also, the need to have "special" tin made for billet cases isn't that critical because many Billet cases are used in Alcohol applications where there is no real need for cooling tin since the combustion temp is so low..B4 buying my new TF1 case I had a stock AS21 case. Not only did I have an 88mm crank, but I had 6" rods and Comp Eliminator 2000 heads, you know the ones from CB that have the Superflow ports?. The stock tin fit like a glove..with minor mods around the intake manifolds. Yes I have seen the fiberglass Porsche style shrouds, but they don't fit strokers as per the supplier, German Auto in Norwalk.


As per the Brazilian aluminum cases, at first they had some problems..but I have seen and heard from different people that use them and they love them. RIMCO uses them and they're the biggest and most reputable VW Machine shop this side of the Pacos rabbit...lol (Yosemite Sam..1958)

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Post by porboy » Mon Dec 08, 2003 12:02 pm

On an ACVW listserv I'm on, I saw a lot of posts about them when the Brazilian ones first came out, by folks who were actually selling them as well as those using them. Aside from the casting flash or rough casting issues (which I think are still there), there was something in the first few hundred cases that came off the production line...I forget exactly what, but it was something like a misaligned distributor shaft bore or suchforth
You are correct. The distributor shaft bore was off as well as clearance for the drive gear. Also the oil galley where the pump bolts to the case didn't line up with most pumps so the hole had to be enlarged to provide for sufficent oiling.
Apparently that's been fixed since then, but I'm still curious why VW Paradise refuses to use them
This was when the cases first hit the street and maybe with the new models they have changed their stance. I was told that the machining of the cases was torture on the tools and the aluminium kept eating up their tooling.

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Post by rbjcampi » Tue Dec 09, 2003 9:30 pm

Sorry guys but I didn't know anyone else had been replying to this because it hasn't sent me the e-mail notice and works been pretty busy...

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I've decided that since income tax return is coming and I'll be getting a reinlistment bonus, I might as well build the engine I want/need. My question is what would be the best for my situation

4 seat mid(?) travel (12'' & 14'')

stock 091 trans (won't be building up right now)

turbo in the future, after trans build up (probably the car craft kit, low 8-10 lbs boost)

single carb (due to ease and future turbo)

I don't have to be the fastest ???? size engine out there, I want to be the most reliable ???? out there

Thanks for the help

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Post by r erfert » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:11 pm

beansub...
I recently bought a set of big valve 42mm heads and a 82mm stroker crank along with a(I think 002)bus trans(3RIB).
I will look for 94mm stroker pistons and a case to build a 2276.
I will also want to run a set of 44 idf Weber carbs to feed it.
Up to a 1915, a single Weber carb works good. But over about a 1915cc you might consider dual carbs(More air more fuel).
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Post by Intelliduner » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:22 pm

r erfert wrote:beansub...
Up to a 1915, a single Weber carb works good. But over about a 1915cc you might consider dual carbs(More air more fuel).
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Or a big ol' Holley :P

Even a pair of 40 IDFs will take you a long way. I ran 40s on a 2180cc street engine, just put in larger venturis, jetted it up, and it ran great, redline around 6500 with single HD valve springs, a Pauter cam that had similar specs to an Engle 110, and 1.3:1 roller rockers. 44s might have squeezed a few more RPMs out of the top end, but I was quite pleased with the 40s.

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Post by SANDMANIAC » Tue Dec 09, 2003 10:34 pm

beansub..if you plan on turboing this thing in the future..I STRONGLY recommend the tightest DUAL springs you can get...not necesarily K-Motion...but get Duals...they will close faster and tighter...A buddy of mine just turboed a 2070 with the CB heads and dual springs..and a single 40 Weber, it's geat..8 lbs..and loves Olds..with 4 adults..(beefed up tranny)..and dunes great with the Carcraft Turbo coming spot on...T-2/T-3 Hybrid..very nice setup...But the heads MUST have very good valve springs...You won't get away with single valve springs because they love to float under High Ripems..lol!..the more tension you have on the valve when it closes...the more RPMs you get out of the motor...you don't want the valves to float!...that breaks things..lol..with normal aspiration you can get away with single springs...with Turbo..I wouldn't do it!
Jose Solis
ASA/BRC/NRA Member and Supporter
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