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Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:24 pm
by Sand Commander
Partnership For Johnson Valley hosts meeting with local businesses and Military representatives from Twentynine Palms

What was to be a routine meeting to discuss the proposed expansion of the Twentynine Palms MCAGCC chaired by Harry Baker turned into an emotional discussion about the economic impacts the military's proposed expansion would have in Lucerne, Johnson, Yucca Valley and surrounding communities if tourism was removed from the region.

"This is a Route 66 scenario" said one of the business owners concerned about local impacts on tourism that could turn our communities into ghost towns.

Ed Waldheim, President of the California Trail Users Coalition and a Director of the Partnership, was visibly shaken and genuinely concerned that the emotion of these local retailers could never be channeled through typical scoping methods. Range Expansion Program Manager Joe Ross, assured us he would relay this overwhelming concern demonstrated by local business owners to the upper military brass and that every comment carries weight. He noted that socioeconomics will be one of many important items to be fully analyzed in the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS).

One very important key element discussed was the volume of scoping comments that have been received so far by the Marines. As of today, just under 900 Emails and about 500 hard comment letters have been received. This number of comment letters to the military is disappointingly low.

The Partnership is urging the public to send letters to the military regarding this issue. The more the better. Unique comments and ideas are openly welcome from all types of tourists, multiple users and local residents. All substantive comments that are received will be incorporated into the Draft EIS, scheduled for release in spring 2010.

Comments can be as simple as one sentence, or as many words as you would like. THE DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING COMMENTS IS JAN 31, 2009.

Download comment form here

Comments may be submitted in writing by sending a letter to:

Mr. Joe Ross, Project Manager, 29Palms Proposed Training
Land/Airspace Acquisition Project, MAGTFTC/MCAGCC,
Bldg. 1554, Box 788104, Twentynine Palms, CA 92278-8104;

by an e-mail to ;

or by voice mail at 760-830-3764

Re: Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:29 pm
by alyshka ... cificPlan/

Hello Folks,

As you know, AAPL supports the Partnership For Johnson Valley (PFJV) in
their efforts to save one of the best OHV areas in the California desert.
They have created the petition above to convince Marine officials of the sheer numbers
of JV users who will be harmed by the loss of JV to OHV use.

They have collected 1200 signatures in the first days of the petition and let's double that amount for them!
This one is brand new and reworded from any earlier petition you may have signed, so please sign it.
This will also be used in a letter generator campaign to contact congressional reps.

Its very important and we are told it carries the weight of a written comment,
even if you have already submitted a comment and/or signed this previously.

If a page pops up asking for a donation, Ignore it, its a software issue with the
free petition site.

If you have not made a scoping comment, please also do so
visit for information, sample letters and comment instuctions.

Wayne Nosala

Thanks Wayne and all who sign this,

Greg Weirick

Re: Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:36 am
by Astro
I signed :D

Did you notice the areas the alternate plan would like used instead of Johnson Valley. It utilizes areas that were included as wilderness even though they were already used for military trianing & deemed not suitable as wilderness areas :shock:

I wish we had the funds & resources to go over every acre they have taken fron the public through wilderness etc. landgrabs & put the CBD, Sierra Club, etc... on the defensive. They have gone way beyond reason & just keep taking more :evil:

Astro 8)

Re: Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 12:00 am
by Wayne_Nosala
Thanks to all who signed this, Over 5100 and climbing in
48 hours since we posted the petition

The Ipetitions web site tracked ours as #1 rank all day


Re: Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 10:12 pm
by Wayne_Nosala

Ok Folks, We are just shy of 8,000 in one week !

Please pass to your freinds and family, Tammi is just about
ready to print this sucker out and deliver to Joe Ross

Please, only sign once, Tammi has been editing multiple signitures

Also, Please send in written comments, they have received 5000

ok, but could be better, We are making a dent in thier plan, I
would rather take out the entire vehical then just see a dent ... cificPlan/


Re: Johnson Valley in Danger

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:54 am
by Glamisbound
Awesome area we need to fight for. Petition signed.