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Post by Wayne_Nosala »

FYI
http://www.responsibletrails.org/Ads_Rh ... havior.pdf

At Saturdays DAC meeting these flyers were sitting among meeting
materials

I just tought its fair game to post what material is referanced to
from this message board among many others.

There is a quote ripped from this board in referance to a statment
that Vincent Branusso made

Not trying to start crap, just relaying what is being taken
off this site for thier agenda

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I picked up one of everything on the table and did not see this hand out :-k

I detect major BS.
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They were there, Cheap photo copies, I have signed up on almost
every message board listed in that thing, I cannot get on
Sand Mountain-Nv board, If someone has account there please
Please post and advise they are being watched,

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Do you want the copy I picked up?, I can send it to you, I dont
need it, The PDF posted reflects the same material, Waldhiem has
one also from the same DAC table. Maybe ask Mr Holiday, He was
there.

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I get nothing but a blank page from that link.
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Wayne_Nosala wrote:Do you want the copy I picked up?
I can send YOU a bad copy of the pdf off this site too.

I did NOT see this on the table and it is not in the stack of what I took, but OK its there. What about it? People are watching us? The quote doesn't have anything to do with the sport. I've known for years things we say on the bbs are open for the world to read. Now with your post it might be brought to their attention twice OR makes it easier for them to find.

Looks to me like this is a group of trail users who don't like sport riders. This is a sand site. You were with a guy who has a lot to do with signing trails. and you bring it to the attention of all of us by posting it on the bbs. I think if you have a problem with Vince you should take it up with Vince in private.

Nice to see you at the meeting btw. Sorry we didn't talk. I plan to be at future meetings hope to see you there.
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Winston Cup wrote:I get nothing but a blank page from that link.
It takes a while for it to load. Give it 20 seconds.
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You were with a guy who has a lot to do with signing trails. and you bring it to the attention of all of us by posting it on the bbs.
I posted this to relay a fact material was taken from this
site and printed in a anti OHV rag, That is it,

I am very familiar with this particular Anti group and thier tactics

Not sure why you are trying to bust my nut over or accusing me
of lieing about picking it up at the DAC meeting

And see no reason to compare what I do on the desert trails

If I run across somthing like this, I think its only fair to
inform the users of this BBS thier posts are being taken
and printed in an obvius anti OHV campaing.

If you want to take it off line,
Here is my direct phone #760-373-7866

I refuse to be drug into a conflict over this on
public message board.

Mods can remove this whole thing if they feel neccesary
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I read a majority of it....same ol' BS, written by a GAG trying to act like they care about trails and access for all but they're lying none the less.

So, we're quoted. So?

Want me to post a couple more? Be glad to.
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Sloppyduner wrote:I picked up one of everything on the table and did not see this hand out :-k

I detect major BS.
Sloppyduner wrote:
Wayne_Nosala wrote:They were there
If they were there I would have picked one up.
Dang, sloppy. I haven't been a big fan for a while, but now it seems like you're flat out calling him a liar.

WTF!!??

I mean, why you riding his ***** when all he's trying to do is let us know that they're taking our quotes and using them against us?

On a side note, why would they quote the Muslim thing? Is that to discredit him/us?
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Rekd wrote:I mean, why you riding his ***** when all he's trying to do is let us know that they're taking our quotes and using them against us?
Seems weird to me that someone pops their head in to bash the ASA using a package I never saw. We all know groups lerk on this bbs.
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Sloppyduner wrote:
Rekd wrote:I mean, why you riding his ***** when all he's trying to do is let us know that they're taking our quotes and using them against us?
Seems weird to me that someone pops their head in to bash the ASA using a package I never saw. We all know groups lerk on this bbs.
Wow. Just wow.

Didn't sound like he was doing any bashing to me. Mahaps he edited it before I read it???

And are you really a representative of the ASA??
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An interesting bit of business that PDF. More like an Excel spreadsheet that they modified the formula's to produce the preconceived outcome. Haven't seen any thing like that since 01, maybe 02. :-s
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Sloppyduner wrote:
Rekd wrote:I mean, why you riding his ***** when all he's trying to do is let us know that they're taking our quotes and using them against us?
Seems weird to me that someone pops their head in to bash the ASA using a package I never saw. We all know groups lerk on this bbs.

Wayne is very much an advocate of OHV access. He has been involved in, among other things, the fight to keep Johnson Valley open. He's involved in desert racing, as well.

This is not the only site where he has posted information about this group. On another, he made a similar post informing the owner of a very popular off road site that the same thing was happening to him (quotes being used in an attempt to discredit, etc).

From what I've seen, he's very much on our side.
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Jon, bro, I think you took it wrong too.

To me Wayne is just trying to bring this to our attention. Sure we already know it happens, but it doesn't hurt to throw out a reminder every once in awhile :|

Wayne, thanks for sharing this. It's eye opening :shock:
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It's a bunch of flippin propaganda and they can quote SandyC :!: I've had about enough of the smear merchants and slanderers. The home of the free and brave is going by the wayside. :twisted: Thanks Wayne for your diligence.
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Sloppy dunner is showing his true colors. You need to face up to the fact that you are in a defensive posture with this new president. With Bush, no one here had to think much about politics cause we all knew Bush wasn't a threat to the status quo ( much to my shagrin, as Bush should of been proative towards open dunes and modification of The Endangered Species Act ). But Bush let us all down in so many ways. He had the defence of our sovereignty to deal with and I'll stand by him for his record while on his watch. The Bush bashers are many, and they include Oduma as he so enjoys blaming our current state of the economy solely on Bush and the Republicans, which is total B.S.

Fannie Mae, the nation's biggest underwriter of home mortgages, has been under increasing pressure fron the Clition Administration to expand mortgage loans among low and moderate income people and felt pressure from stock holders to maintain its phenomenal groth in profits.

A writer from the New York Times, Semtember 30th,1999. Steven A. Holmes.

If you could breath you could qualify for a loan. The only thing you had to do was pick your color. Anything under $500,000.00 was fairgame for these people.

Now we all are paying the price.

Bush and the Republicans should of been raising bloody hell, but, they didn't want to crash the party.

The party is over........................... :roll:
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I know that Sloppy and I have some differing opinions on the political landscape, but I also know where he stands on dune access and OHVs in general. He's put a lot more time and energy into supporting the ASA than many of us here, myself included. I'm inclined to believe that this was a simple misunderstanding.
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I will step up and defend Sloppy on this one too. Not only is he a superior advocate for our sport, but also our organization. I feel he was simply defending the ASA and the recreation activity that we all love and misunderstood the message that Wayne was conveying.

I cant say that I would have handled it the same way as him. There are ways to make your point through non confrontational debate and tact. I would have to say give him the benefit of the doubt that he was just upset to see the propaganda slandering Vince and other members of different organizations as well as putting more negative spins that we are all a bunch of crazy heathens tearing up the land.

In addition, I agree that Wayne was just bringing it to our attention. I dont think his intentions were in any way negative.

Now all you guys hug and kiss and make up cause we dont need to be fighting amongst ourselves. :D
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What Josh said pretty much nailed it. Why come on a bbs and say watch it "they" are watching us. We know "they" are watching us. "They" want to split us up. "they" (myself included) seem to be doing a pretty good job at trying. I did NOT see that packet at the meeting. I thought it was a guy posting on the bbs that, like Josh said, was attempting to call the org, and one of its co-founders out. That won't fly while I'm around... unless it was 8 years ago and I was the one doing it. Those times are far behind me. I think at least a couple of you might have noticed I try to do what I can for the sport and this org.
HSSC wrote:You need to face up to the fact that you are in a defensive posture with this new president.
WTH does THAT mean? My guy didn't get elected. This has the makings of a very interesting thread. I'll save my coments for the Sloppys True Colors thread.

Back on topic. Wayne thanks for bringing up something few people knew about. You gotta watch what you say because you never know when those tree hugging, land steeling commys are reading about us under educated, gun toating, beer swig'n, land destroying, lovers of God and country.

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HSSC wrote:Bush and the Republicans should of been raising bloody hell, but, they didn't want to crash the party.
Beg to differ, but I distinctly remember hearing Bush tell the Dems (way more than once) that the crap with Fanny and Freddy had to stop because it was undermining our economy.

He was basically powerless to stop it (2 against 1), and I think he gave up and jumped on the bandwagon the last year or two.

Sloppy, does your last name start with a P? You really need to reel it back a notch. We have enough trouble and don't need you alienating active members of our "situation". (Not saying you're not valuable at all, BTW, your help is appreciated.)
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The whole issue of "us" being quoted was brought up on this very bbs 7 or 8 years ago. At that time, we thought it was a bfd.

Well, it ain't.

They're going to quote us regardless. They're going spin out of control whatever we say. They will lie (jeez, they've never done that before have they? Just ask Chilton in Arizona.), steal, conjole, make mega bucks and hire lobbyists, give money to Al "I'm a liar and a fraud" Gore to plant trees some freakin' place and say he's carbon neutral, go to court after judge shopping all over the freakin' country, file lawsuits 'cause we haven't got the dinero to fight back. Then they paint themselves as all warm and fuzzy, how they love mother gia, how they are doing this for YOUR children.

B.S.

I want to say all of them should be beheaded and then have their heads stuck on pikes lining major highways of America. I should say that, but I won't.

BTW, Scotty, W let us down BIG.
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This thread needs to be moved to the political forum =D>

Yes, washr, Bush 43 let us down. I think at the end of his presidency the administration started to move towards the one world order and that is the direction we are headed in with this administration and congress.

In regards to the economic crisis, there are a lot to blame, those that black mailed the lending institutions with the title of racist if they did not lend to low income minorities; the lending institutions themselves for taking advantage of the situation based on the fact that they could bundle and send the toxic assets to fanny and freddy and score big time; politicians benefiting from kick backs from fanny and freddy (we know who they are); the fact the Bush administration did warn against the economic crisis that could come upon the US, but all they did was warn, they did not use the bully pulpit or the media to make it public; the media for the most part being Bush haters, therefore doing everything possible to discredit him, whether deserving or not (the media has been a true disservice to our country and has been used); the fact that most voters that voted the last election cycle were not sophisticated (Obama will pay for my mortgage and my gas; those thinking the Republicans controlled congress); now we have uncontrollable spending, basically we have a one party system and anything goes; did you know that Obama beleives that spending more will get us out of the recession/depression? (He beleives that the Great Depression was caused by lack of spending, not over spending :shock: ); politicians that are so arrogant in both parties that they do not know or care what the average American thinks or wants from our Great Country, they believe that they know best :roll: ; did you know that the US is bankrupt? We are borrowing from ourselves because China will not lend to us unless we meet a certain criteria, i.e. pay back the trillion we want to borrow in 7 years (can't be done), so we print and print and print; Obama would not answer the question at his press conference in regards to who will be paying back this debt (I guess it wasn't on the big flat screen to read and give an answer :D ) George Soros :twisted:

Basically, this is my theory, the current administration's first and foremost priority is to destroy the opposing party (Republicans) and thus be able to push their agenda towards a new world order. In addition, the US Constitution would be disected and re-interpreted, and ammended. Should the opposing party fail to pick up seats in congress, especially the Senate so as to fillibuster, we would be on that path of no return. IMO, it is crucial for the opposing party to gain the majority in either the House or Senate to stop the direction we are headed in. That is, unless you are in favor of a progrssive socialist society.

That's my propaganda for the day :wink:
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Wow, This is all it takes to get you guys active and in an uproar?
I'll have to remember that! :D

I've re-read the original post maybe 10 times and I can't for the life of me find any way that it could possibly be some sort of attack against off-roaders, Vince or this board. Even if the packet wasn't actually there and it was simply pulled off of the web.

At the very worst that post should have done nothing but to serve as a great topic starter... (good job Wayne)
If Wayne's a Greenie (he's not, I don't think) then thanks for showing your hand.
If Wayne's a Pro-access person (most likely) then thanks for showing this very interesting PDF.

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Google the name "Wayne Nosala"

You will find I am in no way shape or form an Anti OHV nut...or grennie

I even posted my phone number if someone is concerned enough to take it off line

I even advised the Mods to remove this thread if deemed inappropriate

This material was at the DAC meeting, I have it sitting in front of me, It has
notes from the meeting scribbled all over it. Its not my fault ...they either
ran out of them ...or was missed by someone.

I would have never even posted the link here, but it showed
up on another BBS website I use

I stipulated in the original post, I did not intend to start crap

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Don't sweat it, man. Sloppy was out of line.

Period.

He owes you an apology IMNSHO. I don't know what his problem is, (unless he IS Jon Poiks, then that would explain a lot, because he just likes to argue without being burdened with facts), but he really needs to sack up either way because I think he's way off base and waaayyy out of line!

Oh, and I did google you. After the mountains of OHV support links, I see you made a brief showing at CNCzone.com back in 04. I'm an admin there. :lol: What's your background with CNCs?
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Love you too Reked. We really should hang out some time... maybe at one of several events. We are really hurting for volunteers. See... there is talking and then there is doing. Not an attemp at a slam just facts.
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Oh, and I did google you. After the mountains of OHV support links, I see you made a brief showing at CNCzone.com back in 04. I'm an admin there. What's your background with CNCs?
Ha ha... small Internet world ay?

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unless he IS Jon Poiks, then that would explain a lot, because he just likes to argue without being burdened with facts
Sloppyduner wrote:Love you too Reked. We really should hang out some time... maybe at one of several events. We are really hurting for volunteers. See... there is talking and then there is doing. Not an attemp at a slam just facts.
See what I mean, Jon? You bring up your so-called facts but you know not of what you speak. You really should do your homework before you run off a cliff and make claims you can't substantiate.

I have been actively working for this cause since 2006. Just because you don't see me working here at the ASA doesn't mean I haven't done anything. You made the same (dead wrong) assumption about Wayne.

Remember, I'm a freelance writer, Jon. And as such I have brought issues to the forefront many hundreds of times on web sites and magazines all over the continent. Including but not limited to places like ATV Source Magazine, MX Affiliate Magazine, VerticalScope, 451Press and others.

**** those pesky facts. They keep getting in your way, don't they Jon?
We are really hurting for volunteers.
To tell you the truth, Jon, since you bring it up, part of the reason, albeit a very small part, I haven't been as active in volunteering my time for the ASA Press Release Committee lately (aside from not seeing much activity in that forum and I've been medicated for a few months) is that we still have people like you (supposedly representing the ASA) picking fights with all the wrong people.

Its asinine.

It's funny, Jon, but I never really liked you from the first time I saw you post as Sloppyduner. Couldn't quite figure out why, either. Now I guess I know.

So like I said, Jon, I think you owe Wayne an apology, as well as the rest of the ASA BBS, for your rude, errant and wildly misplaced accusations against someone who has seemingly done hundreds of times the work for our cause than YOU have. (You should do that google search Wayne suggested. Very impressive.)

Wayne,

It sure is a small world. I am a moderator at eMasteram's forum. I've been a machinist since the mid 80's. Been programming them for something like 15 years, since back in the original Virtual Gibbs that only ran in DOS. Man, things have come a long way haven't they.

Hope you're staying busy over there, and thanks for what you're doing for our community, it's greatly appreciated. :mrgreen:
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I feel like I'm at an HOA board meeting right now. For the record, I HATE HOA board meetings. 95% of the time they are a complete waste of time b/c 5% of the membership is bickering about personal grievances unrelated to the organization as a whole. Geezus H...this is a simple thread about a pertinent subject. It shouldn't be about personal attacks or even worse.......POLITICS.

This thread SHOULD NOT be in the political form at all b/c it SHOULDN'T be about politics....please stop trying to make it about politics...we have enough of those...It's what it is...a simple thread about information we can use to help save our dunes and other riding areas.
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Glamisbound wrote:I feel like I'm at an HOA board meeting right now. For the record, I HATE HOA board meetings. 95% of the time they are a complete waste of time b/c 5% of the membership is bickering about personal grievances unrelated to the organization as a whole. Geezus H...this is a simple thread about a pertinent subject. It shouldn't be about personal attacks or even worse.......POLITICS.

This thread SHOULD NOT be in the political form at all b/c it SHOULDN'T be about politics....please stop trying to make it about politics...we have enough of those...It's what it is...a simple thread about information we can use to help save our dunes and other riding areas.
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What I would really like to see is for all of us to focus on what we should be focused on: the preservation of our right to access public lands for recreation.

We may have varying opinions on other issues, but I think that all of us have at least ONE common interest, or we wouldn't be here. We need to be focused on that and not be so concerned about other things that serve as distractions from what we want to accomplish.
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My first thought was, this thread needed to be in the political section, well it isn't, were all going wide open. So be it.

Now Sloppy Duner, I know I can be blunt and not always completely on target. I'm a long ways away from Glamis and have only visited Glamis twice in my life, but it is part of the front line and politics are the weapons of choice. I'm truly a Libertarian, but the reality is I vote Republican cause voting Libertarian, at this point, is not going to make a difference. The other option is to vote for Al Gore types and the rest of the freak show and they support anti access, PERIOD.

Sloppy, thank you for your efforts supporting the ASA.

Now back on topic.

Liberials will lie threw their teeth and the liberial press will just look the other way, those are the facts we face as a group.

I choose to always take the high road reguardless of the outcome.
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As a moderator, I have to say that some of the posts in this thread are definitely right on the line of being personal attacks. So let's keep in mind that some of these personal discussions are better taken to PMs.

Also, I can safely say that Sloppy is not Poiks; although Sloppy did give us mods a bunch a grief when he first joined!

Wayne, thanks for bringing this propaganda to our attention. This is definitely a war with the watermelons, and we're even more of an underdog than David was against Goliath!
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BHenry wrote:As a moderator, I have to say that some of the posts in this thread are definitely right on the line of being personal attacks.
Yeah, sorry about that. I just don't take kindly to people taking shots at those trying to help us. Know what I mean?
BHenry wrote:although Sloppy did give us mods a bunch a grief when he first joined!
So you DO know what I mean... :mrgreen:
Also, I can safely say that Sloppy is not Poiks;
Nice to know it's not Poiks. Sure does act like him though. Fighting against each other was one thing Poiks brought to the ASA, if nothing else.
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Rekd wrote:
unless he IS Jon Poiks, then that would explain a lot, because he just likes to argue without being burdened with facts
See what I mean, Jon? You bring up your so-called facts but you know not of what you speak. You really should do your homework before you run off a cliff and make claims you can't substantiate.

I have been actively working for this cause since 2006. Just because you don't see me working here at the ASA doesn't mean I haven't done anything. You made the same (dead wrong) assumption about Wayne.
What was that about being dead wrong, doing your homework before making unsubstantiated claims? [-X

Yeah, the personal attacks are uncalled-for. They only serve to make some of us ignore whatever valid points you may have to make.

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Intelliduner wrote:What was that about being dead wrong, doing your homework before making unsubstantiated claims? [-X
I don't have an issue being wrong on this. I'll admit it too. "I was wrong about his last name"

However, the issues I put on Jon thinking it was a different Jon are still very much relevant and, more importantly, accurate.

Jon made wildly errant claims about someone he was dead wrong about. My claim about him being dead wrong was not dead wrong. I was only wrong about the last name.

Everything else is accurate. :!:

Still waiting for that apology too, Jon. :roll:
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Rekd wrote:Still waiting for that apology too, Jon. :roll:
Will you shut up if I do?
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I think the bigger point of this thread needs restating. How we conduct ourselves here has important consequences not only in that our enemies can use it against us, but in how we treat one another. As soon as as I see someone engaging in personal attacks, it doesn't take much for me to plonk them into my own virtual killfile. It's a matter of credibility, for me *shrug*

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Rekd wrote: ...the issues I put on Jon thinking it was a different Jon are still very much relevant and, more importantly, accurate.
...
Sloppyduner wrote:Will you shut up if I do?
See what I mean?

Jon, you are acting rude and inconsiderate. You ef'd up with your (mis)judgement of Wayne and now you're getting all pissy when I point it out and ask you to make it right. Grow up already.

You're a real good ambassador for the ASA... :roll:

I'm done with this thread.
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Rekd wrote:I'm done with this thread.
Thats a good start. =D>

I said what I wanted to say about this topic long ago. Those who actualy know me, already know my motives. I don't see the need to explain my self to anybody, especially those who jump on the first thing they THINK they know who I am.

I think I said this already. Wayne thanks for bringing up something few people knew about. It was nice to see somebody at the DAC meeting who didn't HAVE to be there but wanted to be there.
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The title of this thread is "ASA message board quoted in anti OHV push" and that pretty much sets a tone that the ASA bbs is screwing up. I get defensive when I read something like that also. I will also get defensive when anyone tries to implicate Vince as doing something wrong when I know Vince and know what he has done for us all these years.

Now, Wayne isn't saying Vince did wrong, just that one of his quotes was used.

I think that the title should have been "Many OHV people quoted in anti OHV push." That would've been better.
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It's only a problem if you let it be.

Imagine: "God quoted in satanic tome" ...

Think God gives a darn?

And oh, by the way. It works both ways. We quote their socialist propoganda all the time while trying to discredit them. In the end we'll win because we are right and they are wrong. Be proud of what you say and be thrilled if anyone ever quotes you. It means they're paying attention. Don't be concerned about the quote, be happy for the plug!
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Voice wrote:Don't be concerned about the quote, be happy for the plug!
Under the theory any publicity is better than no publicity?
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gelwell wrote:
Voice wrote:Don't be concerned about the quote, be happy for the plug!
Under the theory any publicity is better than no publicity?
Like this?

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Washroad wrote:
gelwell wrote:
Voice wrote:Don't be concerned about the quote, be happy for the plug!
Under the theory any publicity is better than no publicity?
Like this?

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Yeah somethin' like that- Gene I mean Brian..............you guys are confusing me [-X
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Scotty it was all for your benefit -Bro :lol:
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Trying to avoid this kind of thing is absolutely pointless. No matter what you say it WILL be taken out of context and used against you.
That being said, The world understands the internet, hence the saying... "If it was posted on the internet then it must be true." Sarcasm at its finest.
No one actually believes a rag like that when they post comments like that. Anyone who does is either an idiot or a member of their chior.

If you quell your speach out of fear of being quoted then THEY have won and you've lost. That is exaclyt what they want.
Quit being Girley-boys and stand up for yourselves without fear. If you BELIEVE in what you say then why fear saying it?
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Voice wrote:Trying to avoid this kind of thing is absolutely pointless. No matter what you say it WILL be taken out of context and used against you.
That being said, The world understands the internet, hence the saying... "If it was posted on the internet then it must be true." Sarcasm at its finest.
No one actually believes a rag like that when they post comments like that. Anyone who does is either an idiot or a member of their chior.

If you quell your speach out of fear of being quoted then THEY have won and you've lost. That is exaclyt what they want.
Quit being Girley-boys and stand up for yourselves without fear. If you BELIEVE in what you say then why fear saying it?
If you DON'T believe in what you say, then don't say it!
Earlier, in this thread, I said,
The whole issue of "us" being quoted was brought up on this very bbs 7 or 8 years ago. At that time, we thought it was a bfd.

Well, it ain't.
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