DAC Meeting in El Centro - Fri. 3/31 and Sat. 4/1/2006

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DAC Meeting in El Centro - Fri. 3/31 and Sat. 4/1/2006

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U.S. Department of the Interior
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News Release

For Immediate Release: January 31, 2006 CA-CDD-06-36
Contact: Doran Sanchez (951) 697-5220; E-mail: Doran_Sanchez@ca.blm.gov


BLM District Advisory Council to Meet in El Centro

The Bureau of Land Management's (BLM) California Desert District Advisory Council has scheduled a 2-day public meeting in El Centro, CA on Friday, March 31 and Saturday, April 1. The Council will participate in a field tour of BLM-managed public lands on Friday from 8:00 a.m. to 5 p.m., and meet in formal session on Saturday from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. in Conference Rooms A, B and C in the CalWorks Building within the Imperial County Center II Complex, located at 2895 South 4th Street, in El Centro, California.

The Council and interested members of the public will depart for a field tour of the Imperial Sand Dunes Recreation Area (ISDRA) at 8:00 a.m. from the parking lot of the Best Western John Jay Inn, located at 2352 South 4th Street in El Centro. The public is welcome to participate in the tour, but should plan on providing their own transportation, drinks, and lunch. Tour stops and presentations/updates will focus on BLM management of the ISDRA, including monitoring and fee collection.

The Council will meet in formal session on Saturday. Agenda topics will include updates by Council member and reports from the BLM District Manager and five field office managers. Once finalized, the agenda will be posted on the BLM state website at http://www.ca.blm.gov/news.

All Desert District Advisory Council meetings are open to the public. Public comment for items not on the agenda is scheduled at the beginning of the meeting Saturday morning. Time for public comment may be made available by the Council Chairman during presentation of various agenda items, and is scheduled at the end of the meeting.

Although the Saturday meeting is tentatively scheduled from 8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m., the meeting could conclude prior to 1:00 p.m. should the Council conclude its discussions. Therefore, members of the public interested in a particular agenda item or discussion should schedule their arrival accordingly.

Written comments may be filed in advance of the meeting for the California Desert District Advisory Council, c/o Bureau of Land Management, Public Affairs Office, 22835 Calle San Juan De Los Lagos, Moreno Valley, California 92553. Written comments also are accepted at the time of the meeting and, if copies are provided to the recorder, will be incorporated into the minutes.

Contact Mr. Doran Sanchez at (951) 697-5220 for more information regarding the March 31 - April 1 District Advisory Council meeting.

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REPORT FROM BOB MASON CHAIRMAN BOD OF ASA

DAC Meeting Trip Report

Jerry Seaver, ISDRA TRT Chairman and Bob Mason, ASA Chairman attended the Desert Advisory Council (DAC) field trip and the meeting in El Centro on March 31 and April 1.This was a highly productive opportunity to network with a broad spectrum of interests including the DAC members, the land managers and elected officials and/or their staff. Several significant commitments were made that are consistent with ASA objectives. Click on this link to view a profile of the DAC membership Click here: Members, Desert District Advisory Council, BLM California

DAC ISDRA Field Trip, Friday March 31

ASA Board member Gary Jordan coordinated the sand cars for the field trip. Eleven vehicles were on hand. Each driver was presented with an ASA shirt and a cap as a token of appreciation for taking a day off work to provide transportation for the DAC tour.

The field trip attendees included the DAC and several other interested parties. The BLM was represented by several members of management as well as El Centro Field Office staff members who participated in the briefings conducted along the field trip route. DAC member and Off Road Business Association (ORBA) President coordinated a very successful turnout of elected officials and their staff.

Neil Hamada lead briefings related to dunes management, fee collection, monitoring, interim closures, status of the RAMP and vendor permitting during several stops in the dunes.

DAC Dinner, Friday March 31

ORBA, Imperial County, UDG and ASA hosted a dinner for the DAC and other invited guests. This provided an informal opportunity to speak with the DAC, BLM Management, representatives of the Desert Protective Council and Roberta Burns, Imperial County Chief Executive Officer.

DAC Meeting, Saturday April 1

Attached is the Agenda. The entire meeting was recorded by a court recorder. Transcripts may be viewed on the BLM CA Desert District website. In addition to the published agenda Sheriff Carter was granted time to discuss law enforcement and fee compliance at ISDRA. He used a brief video and a PowerPoint to make the following observations:

Carter described the law enforcement coalition role in returning the ISDRA to a safe place for family OHV recreation. He noted that a large segment of the lawless element has been removed.
He mentioned that it has been suggested that the “Break the Law, Go to Jail” signs be replaced with “Welcome Duners” signage.
Sheriff Carter closed his presentation with a review of fee collection, noting that revenue collection has been better than last year. In discussions with BLM he has learned that fee management changes are required that are not acceptable and therefore ICSO may not continue to collect fees in 2006-07.

Presentations by UDG and ASA were well received. The ASA presentation included the following observations:

Looking Ahead to Next Season

ISDRA Public Safety Program
Increased Rule and Law Awareness
Consistent Enforcement
Implementation
Visiting Staff Orientation DVD
Responsible Duning Safety DVD
Litter Bag Safety Message
Celebrity Public Service Announcements
Improved Permit Fee Compliance
Continued Enforcement Emphasis


The DAC passed a motion requesting the CA Desert District (CDD) Manager to consider the following ASA recommendations:

ACTION ITEM

Desert Advisory Council Support for ISDRA Public Safety Program

ASA recommends that the DAC consider the following:
Encourage Imperial county and BLM to maintain a high level of law enforcement presence
Development of consistent Field Office rules, i.e.
Grey water disposal
Metal in firewood
Consistent enforcement of rules
Warning citations – spirt vs. letter of the law
Visitor friendly community policing

CDD Manager Steve Borchard acknowledged the need to produce a DVD to indoctrinate visiting law enforcement coalition personnel about the rules and laws including consideration of the “spirit of the law” vs. “letter of law” warnings and citations.



The DAC members, without exception, voiced support of the UDG and ASA partnership involvement. It was clear that they all have a much better understanding of the value of sand sport recreation. The support of business sponsors was clearly evident in the UDG presentation which noted over $300,000 in cost matching contributions.

Meeting with Wally Leimguber, Chairman, Imperial County Board of Supervisors, Sat. April 1

Discussion topics included the March 29, 2006 letter from Charles Lucas, President of the Imperial County Deputy Sheriff’s Association. Wally provided the Board of Supervisors (BOS) perspective re the staffing levels and associated funding.

Wally also discussed the need for a workable solution to continue to involve Imperial County in the ISDRA fee program. We discussed several options and reinforced the following ASA position presented at the DAC meeting:

· ASA encourages the Imperial BOS and BLM to re think the terms and conditions of the ICSO fee collection Assistance Agreement with ICSO with increased emphasis on accountability.

· Consider involving the UDG in marketing both on the ground and offsite.

· Consider limiting the agreement with ICSO to fee compliance enforcement.

· An overall win-win for the BLM, Imperial County and the ISDRA visitors.

Wally indicated that he will participate in a meeting with Steve Borchard, Roberta Burns and Vicki Wood, El Centro Field Office Manager on Tuesday April 3 to develop a strategy to continue Imperial County’s participation in the ISDRA permit process. The need for improved accountability was emphasized. Vicki Wood informed Jerry Seaver that she will be the point of contact for future fee collection discussion. Jerry noted that time is of the essence.



Meeting with Charles Lucas, President, Imperial County Deputy Sheriff’s Association, Sat April 1


We met with Lucas in response to his March 29 letter requesting support of his Association. The attached email has been sent to Mr. Lucas.

Discussion with Ray Loera, Candidate for Imperial County Sheriff, Saturday April 1

Mr Loera attend the field trip and the formal DAC meeting. We had several opportunities to speak with him. He is one of two candidates. His opponent did not participate in the DAC meetings. We will offer both candidates an opportunity to provide the ASA with any information re their view on law enforcement at ISDRA.

Other Observations

BLM noted that crews will be assigned to restake the closure before the Easter holiday.
BLM is clearly committed to the production of the “Visiting Staff Orientation” DVD. Steve Razo plans to schedule the first meeting of the DVD Development Team during the week of April 3rd.
Ted Jones, El Centro Field Office Ranger has offered to participate in the April 20 Biffle/Gordon PSA photo shoot at the Phoenix NASCAR race. Steve Razo will arrange BLM approval for Jones to participate.
Ted Jones offered to distribute checkered flags during law enforcement contacts to educate ISDRA visitors. Tim Gantz will arrange for the delivery of the flags.
Tim Gantz has been encouraged to use checkered flags as an incentive in the litter education program.
Following the UDG presentation one of the DAC members asked if the UDG or ASA have considered partnering with an environmental advocacy organization. At the close of the ASA presentation ASA challenged the environmental community to “Partner Up” on gathering data (monitoring). After the DAC meeting DAC member Tom Scott, University of California Department of Earth Sciences approached Jerry on this topic.
During the Olds Hill briefing Ted Jones noted the need for signage at the ISDRA to educate visitors about the ISDRA rules and laws. Lee Banning, ASA member and tour driver spoke with Ted about his willingness to assist in a signage project. Neil Hamada offered that the dumpster contractor has approved the installation of signage on his dumpsters. Several business sponsors have offered to fund this program. Neil will coordinate the development of the text for the signs. BLM will consider posting signs similar to the Coral Pink Sand dunes signage (see attached).
With the exception of Dane King, of Sand Addiction Magazine no other media representatives were observed to be in attendance in this two day event. Dane participated in the field trip driving a sand car provided by DeJong Sand Cars.
The DAC meeting was not well attended. San Diego Off-Road Coalition, ORBA and ASA were the only OHV organizations in attendance. Participation by the local community was limited to elected official staff members.

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He mentioned that it has been suggested that the “Break the Law, Go to Jail” signs be replaced with “Welcome Duners” signage.
I have an idea for a sign

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Jerry Seaver wrote: In discussions with BLM he has learned that fee management changes are required that are not acceptable and therefore ICSO may not continue to collect fees in 2006-07.
I would think that Imperial County has a lot vested in this game.
So:
--Why is ICSO not wanting to continue the fee collection?
--Who is requiring the fee mgmnt changes?
--And to whom are they not acceptable?
If collection $$ are up from last year, I would think that this because more visitors are paying, not necessarily becuase of a bigger crowd. This year, it seems that ICSO is manning the post more than last-years team was. With this, it seems that the present fee collection MO is good.

Aside form that, it reads as if 'they' are looking to take a less aggressive [yet still assertive] approach with Law / Rule enforcement. Friendlier bill-boards, 'warning violations', good 'spirit', more signage, etc.

Risky, but.... If this is becuase the ICSO firmly believes that "a large segment of the lawless element has been removed." ... this is move in the right direction. I guess time will tell.

I am interested to know how the present candidates for ICSO seek to govern the ISDRA.
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--Why is ICSO not wanting to continue the fee collection?
--Who is requiring the fee mgmnt changes?
--And to whom are they not acceptable?
If collection $$ are up from last year, I would think that this because more visitors are paying, not necessarily becuase of a bigger crowd. This year, it seems that ICSO is manning the post more than last-years team was. With this, it seems that the present fee collection MO is good.
No one is requiring a fee management change but the Sheriff isn't happy with how the BLM wants them to operate.

The TRT has expressed concern about how the ICSO is collecting the fees. The TRT has expressed it's concerns along with the ASA that the BLM not consider a raise in the fees when the system used isn't getting a high level of compliance.

There are more dollars being collected by the ICSO this year, but that is very misleading. Because last year most of the machines were inoperatable and there was less money collected than the year before.

For the last two years Central Parking the outfit that was handling the fee collection before ICSO was doing it, did a very poor job. The TRT for two years had been making a recommendation to the BLM that they hold them accountable. The BLM tried and wasn't successful, that's why they signed an assistance agreement with the ICSO.

The ICSO is being paid more money to collect the fees than Central Parking was and there is many who are not paying. The most common question asked about the fees at the dunes is, where can I get a permit.

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Jerry Seaver wrote: For the last two years Central Parking the outfit that was handling the fee collection before ICSO was doing it, did a very poor job. The TRT for two years had been making a recommendation to the BLM that they hold them accountable. The BLM tried and wasn't successful, that's why they signed an assistance agreement with the ICSO.
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