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Post by RobC »

I'm sure this has been discussed before but I don't want to do a lot of searching. I'd like some recommendations on a decent digital camcorder, in the $300 - $400 range, if possible. Something with an input port to which I could hook up an external camera. I also would like to get suggestions on exteranl camera setups. I've seen the ones on actionsportscams.com ($500), but I don't really want to spend that much money. Any help is appreciated.
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RobC wrote:I'm sure this has been discussed before but I don't want to do a lot of searching. I'd like some recommendations on a decent digital camcorder, in the $300 - $400 range, if possible. Something with an input port to which I could hook up an external camera. I also would like to get suggestions on exteranl camera setups. I've seen the ones on actionsportscams.com ($500), but I don't really want to spend that much money. Any help is appreciated.
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I want to buy one also; sooner than later.

I want what will work, take the abuse and be able to be strapped into my passenger [or Cathy's passenger seat]... a nice 1 1/2" bar mount for the camera would be cool.


Right now, have $$$ will travel. It is time for a new little toy.

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I just bought a bullet cam setup from a company in Ireland... its a Sony Hyper HAD 480 line cam with 4.3mm lens...and a 10 meter extension cable.

Complete kit was: $263.50, shipped, 2nd day UPS WorldWide Express (shipping was only $18!!)

Waterproof colour bullet camera, 21CWSHR, with 2 metre cable attached, select NTSC or PAL
Camera supplied with high quality waterproof connection
Microphone with 1.5 metre cable
Battery holder for 8 x AA batteries (use any type, alkaline duracel or rechargeable) Batteries not supplied
Battery pack clip to connect direct to bullet camera
BNC to phono/RCA connector
Velcro mount
Fixed mount
Heavy duty carry case

http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

Mine was shipped this wednesday, and I get it Friday!!

My camera is a sanyo DVC mini cam.. I got it from UBid about 3 years ago for around $429.00, you can get them cheaper now.. the picture quality is amazing.. its a 1 megapixel CCD imager. I took a sample video of a model train moving, and focus was fast, edges were crisp, clear, colors were vibrant, etc...
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Thanks guys. I guess I've got some reading to do.
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So everyone can see that the Ireland Bullet Cam is not a scam.. here is mine that just arrived today... as expected... 2 day Worldwide Express UPS... :D :D

In fact...as I was inspecting the camera.. and its docs...they sent me the 560 line resolution, and I only paid for the the 480 line unit... :shock:

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azpyroguy wrote:I just bought a bullet cam setup from a company in Ireland... its a Sony Hyper HAD 480 line cam with 4.3mm lens...and a 10 meter extension cable.

Complete kit was: $263.50, shipped, 2nd day UPS WorldWide Express (shipping was only $18!!)

Waterproof colour bullet camera, 21CWSHR, with 2 metre cable attached, select NTSC or PAL
Camera supplied with high quality waterproof connection
Microphone with 1.5 metre cable
Battery holder for 8 x AA batteries (use any type, alkaline duracel or rechargeable) Batteries not supplied
Battery pack clip to connect direct to bullet camera
BNC to phono/RCA connector
Velcro mount
Fixed mount
Heavy duty carry case

http://www.rfconcepts.co.uk/helmet_cameras.htm

Mine was shipped this wednesday, and I get it Friday!!

My camera is a sanyo DVC mini cam.. I got it from UBid about 3 years ago for around $429.00, you can get them cheaper now.. the picture quality is amazing.. its a 1 megapixel CCD imager. I took a sample video of a model train moving, and focus was fast, edges were crisp, clear, colors were vibrant, etc...
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http://www.actionsportscams.com/

I have one of these, they are very good and made for off-road. Get a Sony camera. You can also contact the guy here, he has lots of good info about the cameras.

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Post by jhitesma »

If you're going to be using the camcorder mainly for recording off an in-car setup there are a lot of things you DON'T need in a camera and IMHO should not pay extra for.

But there is one thing that is REQUIRED and one that is very nice to have.

REQUIRED: Ability to record from an analog source. And it should be something you can activate on the camera without the remote (like on my Cannon.) Basically you hook up the cable you use to play on a TV but instead hook the output of a remote camera into it. Same as if you were going to record something off your TV or VCR onto the camcorder.

Nice to have: LANC port for a wired remote. Not many cameras have this anymroe since they now include wireless remotes. But a wireless remote is all but useless out in the bright sun and having a wired remote means you can put the camcorder somewhere safe like in a bag protected from the sand and vibration.

When you're using a helmet cam your camcorder is basically being used as an analog to digital converter and a VCR. It's not acting like a camera at all. So things like big zooms don't matter at all, neither does general optics quality on the camera. Just how well the cameras tape mechanism deals with shocks and how good the DA converter works.

Other than that any camcorder will do so what you choose is more up to what you choose to do with the camcorder.

The helmet cams themselves you can find all over the place cheap. Action Sports Cams basically gives you a nice case and a few cables with the same camera. But charge a LOT more. SuperCircuits has some nice cameras at decent prices most of the time: http://www.supercircuits.com/index.asp plus Frys usually has a variety and even have a good one every now and then. You can also find them on-line from a number of sources.

The lines of resolution isn't nearly as big a deal as how well the helmet cam's internal exposure is. I've seen expensive ones that don't work well offroad and cheap ones that do. I've also seen cheap ones that don't and expensive ones that do. Best bet is to test it in a store first. See how quickly it adjust going from a bright lighted area to a dark shadowy area. If it can't keep up instantly with you swinging your arm to point it at the two different areas it won't keep up in a rail either. Also a good idea to point it at a VERY VERY bright source and see how it reacts to overload to see what to expect when you drive into the sun. Some cameras will have major color distorsion others will black out the brightest parts and some will deal with it more gracefully.

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Post by Paleale »

I use a Helmet Camera. com unit for my videos. I highly reccomend them, the camera has a special bullet proof case that it goes into to protect it. Now the camcorder part, like Jason said you do not need a lot of bells and whistles on your camcorder but most of the low end camcorders do not have a video input. That is the thing you need to make any remote camera work, here is a list of cameras that you can browse thru, also only Sony and Cannon camcorders have a lanc plug that you can hook up a wired remote to. My current camcorder is a Sony DCR-TRV520. If you want to see how good the video quality is check out this link for a video http://media.putfile.com/Stuck-in-the-Middle-With-you60 it has been compress for the web but it is very clean. The gliches you can see are from drop outs with the tape in the camcorder (tape pulls away from the recording head from negitive or positive G's) as I had the wife hold the camera bag in her lap. Do not do this, you need to put the camera in a safe and secure spot that does not move or you will have drop outs ( I could not find my bunjee straps for that ride... :( )


Clik link below for Camcorder Compatibility Chart


http://www.helmetcamera.com/Camera-Compatibility.html
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Post by OBSESSED »

So what you are saying is for a good system which camera would you use?

I don't want to do tape...

so what about this system:
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MINI-CAM SYSTEMS $495.00

Then you need a mount:
Machine fit for powder coated 1 1/2" & 1 3/4" Roll Bars. Billeted mount fitted for our Mini-Cam provides a tight and secure fit. Camera rotates a full 360 degrees in two locations.
$84.95 + $9.95 S&H

Then to be cool you’d need:
LANC Remote Control
Only $99.00 when ordered with the hardwire system.

Then you’d still need a camera [digital camcorder]
So I see one of these:
Sony Handycam DCR-DVD403
Takes on a, DVD plop it out and into your computer
Or the:
Sony Handycam DCR-HC21
Or:
Sony DCR-DVD301
$699.99

[Or is this camera overkill for the dunes?]

Looks like a $1400+ toy…

Thinking about it…

Santa I have been good....

Right.....................right


ok, so not that good...


Money to burn :shock: .... but not to throw away... :D

Someone help me [please] with this [ok, what I am asking is for you to do all the research for me 8) :) ] Put together a complete system for me, that will take the bumps and abuse...

Thanks,

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But a wireless remote is all but useless out in the bright sun
Why is this Jason?

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OBSESSED wrote:
But a wireless remote is all but useless out in the bright sun
Why is this Jason?
Wireless remotes work with IR signals. In bright daylight there's so much stray IR from the sun the remotes tend to have a VERY hard time being seen by the sensors in the camera.

Add in that with the camera properly padded and packed away there's no way to use a wireless remote (unless it's RF) and they're not just a good option for our uses in this kind of application.

I'd also stay away from the DVD cams....I would expect more dropouts because the mechanism to burn to DVD is a lot more shock sensitive than the mechanism to record to tape.

The DV tape cams are digital - they store the info on the tape digitally just like on a DVD. It's only a different medium. You can still plug them into your computer with a firewire cable and get pure digital video and then burn it to DVD if that's what you want in the end.

Ideally for the dunes I'd rather have a non mechanical digital storage medium like removeable flash memory. But the capacity just isn't there on flash to hold decent quality video. It works for low end highly compressed video....but even then you're pretty limited on time.

A Hard Drive based recorder may fare a little better than DVD but I'd still be concerened about the HD's resistance to shock for long term durability.

Remember, you don't NEED a camcorder for this. You COULD just get a 12v miniDV VCR if you can find one. Or any miniDV VCR and an inverter if you wanted to get ghetto.

miniDV VCR's aren't very common though. VHS would be horrible quality and SVIDEO could be tolerable but still not as easy to work with as DV.

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Sony Handycam DCR-HC21
You will not be able to use this camcorder because it does not have a video input just output.


I would be leary of using a dvd camcorder in a buggy because of the "G forces" that the camera will experience, a dvd disc weighs allot more than a piece of tape over a tape head. and I would image that you would get skips just like a car cd player does over bumps. The perfect recording device in my eyes would be a card recorder like a Ipod except for video. I have not found one yet...

For a good system this is what I would use

Helmet camera.com 480 or 580 lines resolution Extreme camera kit
$339 or $379

Sony DCR-HC32 MiniDV Handycam about $399

Billet mount for the external camera $10 to $20 Easy to make I will post a pic of mine later

Total cost $750 to $790

The camcorder I am using now is digital but use's digital 8 tapes I am hoping to get a HC 32 soon...
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Sorry I forgot to add 1 thing
LANC remote $59
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I have a feeling my $500 budget is going to be blown :roll:
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Post by Tom Simrak »

Steve, use tape. Use a Sony dcr 32. It does it all at a great price.
Dont spend more than $150.00 for your bullet camera. You should be able to get everything you need for less than $550.00.

Dont wast emoney on fancy packaging..

Camera...$420.00 at B&H PHOTO
Helmet cam < $150.00 at frys or many other places. Remember, the cameras are all about the same..

The perfect recording device in my eyes would be a card recorder like a Ipod except for video. I have not found one yet...
Archos makes one...they suck. I tried one for a month...lousy video quality. The best is Mini DV tape. Stick with it.
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Sony DCR-HC32 MiniDV Handycam
Santa left one under the christmas tree and a LANC remote control plus a Peliican hard case too, I must have been a good boy more than I thought :lol: :lol:
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Ideally for the dunes I'd rather have a non mechanical digital storage medium
I saw a Cannon Chip cammera at Best Buy for $699, would this work?
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OBSESSED wrote:
Ideally for the dunes I'd rather have a non mechanical digital storage medium
I saw a Cannon Chip cammera at Best Buy for $699, would this work?
Do you have a model number? I just checked Canons site and didn't see anything like that.

My Canon dosn't have LANC and requires the wireless remote to activate recording from an external source. It works but it's a major PITA so it dosn't get used as much as I'd like.

Most of the Canons have a memory card in them...but it's not for recording video too. It's for VERY low quality stills and special effects like titles and overlays.

I'd be VERY surprised if Canon had something on the market that recorded to memory and had high enough quality to be usable. Why? Because the memory tech simply isn't there yet. The largest flash memory on the market is 4gig in size. And 4gig will only store about 4-15 minutes of raw video footage without compression. Compression could fit quite a bit more into there...but it would like like utter hell when you edit it since the compression schemes used on Video are almost all lossy.

Canon does have an "FS-4" on their website:
http://consumer.usa.canon.com/ir/contro ... _accessory

Which is basically a VCR type of device. But it appears to be digital input only so it can record digitally off a DV cam...but not from a bullet/helmet cam. And it's hard drive based which is not a good idea for a high vibration enviroment like a buggy.

Right now with current technology the best best is still tape for video. Maybe when we have 100Gig flash devices (or at least 20-40Gig) a video recorder with no moving parts will be practical. But that's a few years off still.

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Thanks for all the info, this is one of those times, I reall do not know what I am talking about! :shock: :lol:

I basically can protect the cam, and keep it from jarring, however, "TAPE" seems so old school... Digital or not...

Buy if "YOU Experts" say it, and all seem to agree, then well, I'll save the $$$ and do what you say.

anyone have any last minute advice [other then to go to Hill?]
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$500-1000 in hand, where to go and what to buy....

Last call, help me burn some money 8)

Anyone else?

Thanks,

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Post by jhitesma »

Steve I understand completely. I'm not a fan of tape either.

But being digital does make a big difference. For one everytime you start and stop recording it marks the tape digitally so when you fast forward/rewind it can jump from spot to spot with no searching like VHS.

And being a digital signal recorded on the tape means no loss of quality when you copy it - again unlike VHS.

It's still not as nice as hard drive/flash would be....but it's a lot better than what most of us think of when we think "video tape"

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DVC has excellent quality, I will be making a video this weekend with my cam setup and will put it online sometime next week so others can see what my setup does.
jhitesma wrote:Steve I understand completely. I'm not a fan of tape either.

But being digital does make a big difference. For one everytime you start and stop recording it marks the tape digitally so when you fast forward/rewind it can jump from spot to spot with no searching like VHS.

And being a digital signal recorded on the tape means no loss of quality when you copy it - again unlike VHS.

It's still not as nice as hard drive/flash would be....but it's a lot better than what most of us think of when we think "video tape"
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Here is a pic of the equipment I am using. The reason why I like Helmet Camera.com is because of there camera housing, They have a replacable lens on the housing so you never need to mess with the camera. Sand does not even touch the camera. You also can make your own mount cheap. Here is the pic...

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Post by f-BOB »

Great! Now how do I fit all that stuff on my quad?

This thread has been a big help to me. I'm looking to start recording video as well, but didn't have any clue where to start other than to carry the old mini 8 cam corder out with me and shoot other people riding(which is fine, but I'd wanted to go digital so I could edit, dub, etc, easily).
Can anyone recommend software f that will help with the above?
Thanks for all the input guys!

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Depending what mood I am in I have 3 software programs to pick from
1. Windows Movie Maker (free it is part of Windows XP)
2. Sony's Screenblast Movie Maker ( $99 )
3. Pinnacle Studio 8 ($99)


I really like the Sony software and if I had to buy new software on a budget I would go with the Sony Vegas Movie Studio +DVD Platinum Edition only $129 ( I am trying to talk myself into buying this) If I really had money to blow I would get Sony Vegas 6 + DVD only $674 but if my wife found out I would never get to use it, I would be in a grave... :lol:
Windows Movie maker is really easy to use and it teaches you the basic's of editing, that will help in any of the software programs you would buy. I really do not like Pinnacle and have not used it much. There is one other software program that is very good but expensive and is not for beginners it is Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 $700 but the nice thing about this is a lot of colleges offer classes for it. There is other software programs out there but I have only used or tried these. Hope this helps you out
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Post by f-BOB »

Thanks Paleale.

The best thing about that is I already have the windows program on my machine at home!

I'll have to see what happens next week.

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jhitesma wrote: The lines of resolution isn't nearly as big a deal as how well the helmet cam's internal exposure is. I've seen expensive ones that don't work well offroad and cheap ones that do. I've also seen cheap ones that don't and expensive ones that do. Best bet is to test it in a store first. See how quickly it adjust going from a bright lighted area to a dark shadowy area. If it can't keep up instantly with you swinging your arm to point it at the two different areas it won't keep up in a rail either. Also a good idea to point it at a VERY VERY bright source and see how it reacts to overload to see what to expect when you drive into the sun. Some cameras will have major color distorsion others will black out the brightest parts and some will deal with it more gracefully.
Well the camera went out this weekend, and several times I was facing the sun, and it faired pretty good.. mine lowered the intensity of the bright area, and then quickly recovered (milliseconds) when the bright area was no longer around...

So I am happy with my camera.. I will be posting a link to a video soon.

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Paleale wrote:Depending what mood I am in I have 3 software programs to pick from
1. Windows Movie Maker (free it is part of Windows XP)
2. Sony's Screenblast Movie Maker ( $99 )
3. Pinnacle Studio 8 ($99)


I really like the Sony software and if I had to buy new software on a budget I would go with the Sony Vegas Movie Studio +DVD Platinum Edition only $129 ( I am trying to talk myself into buying this) If I really had money to blow I would get Sony Vegas 6 + DVD only $674 but if my wife found out I would never get to use it, I would be in a grave... :lol:
Windows Movie maker is really easy to use and it teaches you the basic's of editing, that will help in any of the software programs you would buy. I really do not like Pinnacle and have not used it much. There is one other software program that is very good but expensive and is not for beginners it is Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5 $700 but the nice thing about this is a lot of colleges offer classes for it. There is other software programs out there but I have only used or tried these. Hope this helps you out
Danm Jimmy is now an expert! Wasn't that long ago he seemed to be asking stupid questions like me :lol:
I really liked your "Stuck in the Middle" video...

I made a bar mount for my old VHS camera. It had image stablizer so it turned out OK... When the sand froze it up, it was still under waranty. The note back with the cleaned camera was a classic:

"Sir, if you drop your camera again at the beach and then kick it around we will not honor...." :lol: bla-bla-bla

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I made a bar mount for my old VHS camera. It had image stablizer so it turned out OK... When the sand froze it up, it was still under waranty. The note back with the cleaned camera was a classic:

"Sir, if you drop your camera again at the beach and then kick it around we will not honor...." :lol: bla-bla-bla

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There is no microphone for that set up... Also you can only use LANC control for Sony or Cannon camcorders...
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You can find quite a few wired cameras at Fry's like mentioned above. For those of you without a local Fry's shop online at:
http://shop1.outpost.com/category/Outpo ... AT_RSLT_PG

I believe the camera used by Action is this one with the wide angle lens.

http://shop1.outpost.com/product/427931 ... IN_RSLT_PG

These do come with a built in microphone. Also available would be the batteries and battery pack. A small charger can also be found here. They will also have all the wires, connectors etc. if you want to do a bit of homework.

A nice handlebar mounted Lanc control can be found here

http://www.hipod.com/lanc.html

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Wow, I'm getting a lot of great info from everyone. Now I need to just figure out some way to scrape some money together. Thanks all.

I really like that $45 camera RacingRay posted. Has anyone tried it yet?
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Hey guy's great thread so far, excellent info. I was in the process of getting all this stuff and the suggestions really helped. The only problem I am having is that my LANC isn't letting me record with the external video source. Are there differences in LANC cables? I have the stock sony one. Do I need one from one of the bullet cam manufactures'? I got the sony HC-42 it allows me to record from an external video source but only from the touch screen menu not from the cable. Some one that has a similar camera said that I could leave the cam in the off position and the lanc would do the rest but mine doesn't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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I just did a little research and here are the accessories that come with the HC-42

Supplied Accessories of Sony DCR HC-42E

AC-L25 Power Adapter/In-Camera Charger
NP-FP30 InfoLithium® Rechargeable Battery
DRCA-C121 Handycam® Station
RMT-831 Remote Commander Remote Control
Stereo AV Cable
USB Cable
Shoulder Strap
CD-ROM with USB Driver (PicturePackageâ„¢ Software Ver. 1.5 for Sony)
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Sony DCR HC 42E Handycam is MADE IN JAPAN .
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I was reviewing this thread after you posted again and I noticed the link to your "Stuck in the middle with you" in your earlier post. That is the best video I have seen posted on the web as far as clarity of picture! Great job! What resolution camera did you get and what format did you use for posting it? After doing a bit of research these people seem to offer some very good prices on the Lanc control too.

Are those kids having a great time or what??!! I know my grandson will sit in mine or his dad's car for an hour just to make sure he dosent miss a ride. The boy in the middle did look like he might like a bit of Dramamine before the next ride LMAO!!

I am taking a better look at them for a set-up now. Maybe you should seperate your link from the text a bit so some blind old fart like me dosent miss it.

Maybe something like this

CLICK HERE!!

This will surely catch my attention LOL!!

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Ray consider it done... How's it look now


I have the 480 camera and it is a WMA/V file, I compress it just enuff to get it on certain sites other wise I put it on a DVD with no compression
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Thanks much better LOL!!
Did you know with the BBCode if you enter the URL link manually and do it this way you can make your title the link
Stuck in the middle

Just replace the periods with the rest of the URL and it becomes

Stuck in the middle

You can then highlight just the title text and apply the other codes to make it bold, large or colored. Probably more than you wanted to know but it does make a better looking link. Thanks for the info on the camera!!

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Yes I know how to do that but it is so much easier to just do it automatically... :lol:
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Kronikenergy wrote:Hey guy's great thread so far, excellent info. I was in the process of getting all this stuff and the suggestions really helped. The only problem I am having is that my LANC isn't letting me record with the external video source. Are there differences in LANC cables? I have the stock sony one. Do I need one from one of the bullet cam manufactures'? I got the sony HC-42 it allows me to record from an external video source but only from the touch screen menu not from the cable. Some one that has a similar camera said that I could leave the cam in the off position and the lanc would do the rest but mine doesn't. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Did you figure out the problem with the remote? I was actually looking at the Sony HC32 model. I want to be sure it will work correctly though with the remote and external camera.
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I have the HC-32 and the LANC control from HelmetCamera.com and it works fine, no problems.
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I went investigating and learned quite a bit about LANC protocol. They have something for almost every funcion of the camera if some one wanted to manufacture it. Anyhow the problem is that there are two types of recording capability for the LANC there is the Camera record mode which is what the stock sony LANC that I have is and then there is a VCR record mode wich is what all the bullet cam company's use because we have to be in VCR or Edit/playback mode when we record. Which the bullet cam LANC can do automatically. So, that is my problem. Your hc32 will work fine as long as you use a lanc that was made for a bullet camera and not the one you buy of the sony website.

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Great - Thanks for the info.
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Just finished a new video ... It will be released tomorrow night... :lol: After I compile it and Upload it after work tomorrow...
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Well Steve
Did you get a camera set-up?
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Paleale wrote:Well Steve
Did you get a camera set-up?
:shock: :wink: :roll:

Soon, %$^&* work keeps getting in the way...

And, if you would know me it is just so not me to work like a dog...

Excussssses - excuses...

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Paleale wrote:Steve
Here is a pic of the equipment I am using. The reason why I like Helmet Camera.com is because of there camera housing, They have a replacable lens on the housing so you never need to mess with the camera. Sand does not even touch the camera. You also can make your own mount cheap. Here is the pic...

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It's my BD in 18 days.[hint-hint]-->

Here is a list of [from their web site]:

Helmet Camera.com

Camcorder Compatibility

Model AV Input LANC

CanonElura Yes - docking unitYes
CanonElura 2Yes - docking unitYes
CanonElura 2 MCYes - docking unitYes
CanonElura 10Yes - docking unitYes
CanonElura 20 MCYes - docking unitYes
CanonElura 40 MCYesYes
CanonElura 50 MC *YesYes
CanonGL2YesYes
CanonOptura 100 MCYesYes
CanonOptura 200 MCYesYes
CanonOptura PIYesYes
CanonXL2YesYes
CanonXL1SYesYes
CanonZR10YesYes
CanonZR20 *YesYes
CanonZR25 MC *YesYes
CanonZR45 MC **YesYes
CanonZR50 MC **YesYes
Many other Canon’s


SonyCCD-TR917YesYes
SonyCCD-TR940YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV62YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV65YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV72YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV75YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV81YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV82YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV85YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV87YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV93YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV99YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV615YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV715YesYes
SonyCCD-TRV815YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD100 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD101 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD103 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD200 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD201 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD203 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD300 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DCD301 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD403 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD602 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD653 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD703 *YesYes
SonyDCR-DVD803 *YesYes

SonyDCR-HC30 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC32 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC40 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC42 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC65 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC85 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC90 *YesYes
SonyDCR-HC1000YesYes
SonyDCR-IP45YesYes
SonyDCR-IP55YesYes
SonyDCR-IP210YesYes
SonyDCR-IP220YesYes
SonyDCR-PC3YesYes
SonyDCR-PC5YesYes
SonyDCR-PC9YesYes
SonyDCR-PC100YesYes
SonyDCR-PC101YesYes
SonyDCR-PC105YesYes
SonyDCR-PC109 *YesYes
SonyDCR-PC110YesYes
SonyDCR-PC115YesYes
SonyDCR-PC120BTYesYes
SonyDCR-PC330YesYes
SonyDCR-PC350YesYes
SonyDCR-PC1000YesYes

SonyDCR-TR7000YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV6YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV8YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV9YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV10YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV11YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV15YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV16YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV17YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV18YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV20YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV22 **YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV25 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV27 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV30 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV33 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV38YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV39YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV40YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV50YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV70YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV60Yes
SonyDCR-TRV80YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV85YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV103YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV110YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV115YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV120YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV203Yes
SonyDCR-TRV210Yes
SonyDCR-TRV230YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV240YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV310YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV315Yes
SonyDCR-TRV320YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV330YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV340 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV350D8 *YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV510YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV530YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV720YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV730YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV740YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV820YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV828YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV830YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV840YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV900YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV940YesYes
SonyDCR-TRV950YesYes
SonyDCR-VX1000YesYes
SonyDCR-VX2000YesYes
SonyDSR-PD100AYesYes
SonyDSR-PD150YesYes
SonyGV-A500YesYes
SonyGR-DV900YesYes
SonyGV-D200YesYes
SonyGV-D1000YesYes
SonyVX700YesYes
SonyHDR-FX1YesYes
SonyVX2000YesYes
SonyVX2100YesYes

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azpyroguy wrote:
jhitesma wrote: The lines of resolution isn't nearly as big a deal as how well the helmet cam's internal exposure is. I've seen expensive ones that don't work well offroad and cheap ones that do. I've also seen cheap ones that don't and expensive ones that do. Best bet is to test it in a store first. See how quickly it adjust going from a bright lighted area to a dark shadowy area. If it can't keep up instantly with you swinging your arm to point it at the two different areas it won't keep up in a rail either. Also a good idea to point it at a VERY VERY bright source and see how it reacts to overload to see what to expect when you drive into the sun. Some cameras will have major color distorsion others will black out the brightest parts and some will deal with it more gracefully.
Well the camera went out this weekend, and several times I was facing the sun, and it faired pretty good.. mine lowered the intensity of the bright area, and then quickly recovered (milliseconds) when the bright area was no longer around...

So I am happy with my camera.. I will be posting a link to a video soon.

Scott
Hey when will this "soon" be.....come on man I need my video fix! :lol:
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